Date: 2017-04-21 07:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] graydon
I don't think there has been any significant change in gender relations EXCEPT an expectation that men do child care for infants. (Which is very large, but also probably transient.)

I don't think contraception has a whole lot to do with that, and education does. (Rather like public sanitation is way more important than antibiotics to mortality expectations.) Contraception gets a lot of the blame but I think it's far more economically driven than a result of sexual possibility.

Generally, all of it is moot; expanding the presumptive prescriptive norm can't work (and we can see it failing now); that's one of the reasons it's such a wretchedly persistent social mechanism. Once you accept that things are measured by their distance from correctness you can't think your way out, you've got to ditch the axiom, and ditching childhood axioms isn't a practical expectation. People get violently determined to "restore order" to the position of their axiomatic norm and you get roundheads (after Elizabeth Gloriana) and early Victorian public morals (after the Regency) and so on.

There's alternative sets of axioms that don't start with a presumptive norm (which don't result in infinite arguments about taxonomies) but that in turn comes down to education, and look at how hard the reactionary forces work to prevent and control education. I don't know of very many working at a general public ethics that says "there is no good; there is no bad; there are results, and your preferences are not special".
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