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[personal profile] heron61
Like everyone else I know at all well, I'm worried about the future. As I see it, there are two ways that the next four years will go. Sadly, the optimistic option that we effectively have President Pence, either because The Dumpster (as with Shrub, I will not use his name) has early stage Alzheimer's (possible, but unknown), or simply is more interested in being a blustering figurehead than actually doing the hard work of governing (not unlikely). This is a deeply horrifying thought, but also not an unfamiliar one.

Shrub was a grinning sociopath, and Pence seems to be a grim fanatic, but both are politicians who play by typical (if horrid) GOP rules. As long as Justice Ginsburg remains in good health, the court doesn't get worse than it was under Shrub, and while losing Obamacare and Dodd-Frank (and thus the consumer protection bureau) seem both certain and terrible, they can also (eventually) be regained. The economy will get bad, but hopefully not 2008 levels of bad, and the new tax bill will make the rich richer and the rest of us poorer, but we survived Shrub, and given that our economy is fragile now and their policies will clearly make it worse, Republican control of Congress and the Presidency means that everything that happens gets blamed on them.

The other option is honestly terrifying, but at this point we don't know if it will happen. We'll likely have a strong indication in a few months. If he starts going after his enemies and appointing deeply scary people like Giuliani to his cabinet, then it's time to become very worried indeed. I'm not certain what to do if that happens – if things go badly, leaving the US is clearly the best option for pretty much everyone who can. At this point, I could see any Muslims who are able to do moving to another nation, since they'd clearly be the first target if things get truly bad, but wait and see seems (to me, at this point) more reasonable for everyone else.

As for what else to do, I think the first thing to do is be kind to yourself, your loved ones, and to everyone else you know who didn't vote for The Dumpster. We're all stressed and the last thing any of us need is accusations and infighting. I have no idea if we'd have done better or worse with Sanders instead of Clinton, and none of us will ever know that, so let it go. If you voted against The Dumpster, you're on the side of good in my book.

As for everyone else, I think it's very important to keep in mind that unlike Shrub in 2000, there was no false veneer of "compassionate conservatism" in this campaign or with this candidate. As I see it, there is also no "purple America" and no coming together as one nation, there are simply people who voted for The Dumpster and those who did not.

Anyone who voted for him either actively hates us and our many and diverse ways of life, is willing to support someone who ran on a campaign of hating us because they love the GOP or religious fanaticism more than a large portion of the population of this nation, or is sufficiently foolish that they didn't notice the hate and treated the election like they were voting for contestants on reality TV. I loathe the first two and have contempt for the third. However, personal attacks do little good and holding hatred in your heart never makes you a better or happier person.

I'll also never advocate violence against another person except in immediate defense of yourself or someone else, but what I do advocate is both not associating with people who hate us and most of all not giving them money. Let go of hatred, and simply avoid and ignore such people when you can safely and practically do so. I'm currently looking for an alternative to Paypal (and welcome recommendations) because Peter Thiel supported The Dumpster and I'll not be shopping at Home Depot, because the co-founder (Kenneth Langone) also did. However, I also advocate going beyond that. Please don't enrich anyone who voted for him.

If you know of a local store where the owner supported The Dumpster, find an alternative if you can. Also, I urge you not to pay for media created by people who support him or movements associated with him, like gamergate, or the sad and rabid puppies in SF fandom. Also, if most or all of your state government supported The Dumpster, and you live near a state where this isn't true, and your state has a sales tax, then going to that other state to make large purchases makes sense – shifting tax dollars from their governments to ours seems to me an excellent idea.

We need to stick together and support each other. When you can, spend your money at stores run by people who oppose him and purchase and do not pirate media created such people. Also, expect more on-line fundraising to help people with medical problems and similar issues, and help when you can. As I see it, we must take care of each other, but I also believe that The Dumpster's supporters should take care of one another and not ask for our help. I do not believe we should try to harm anyone, but I am also certain we are under no obligation to help anyone who supports people who want to destroy us and what we care about.

I think we also need to realize that we are in the majority (at least in the nation as a whole, if not locally) and that what we have now is two visions for the US that diverge sufficiently that we might as well be living in two nations. Our own vision is not unified or uniform (which is part of why I support it), but it does include respect for all genders, religions, and ethnicities, and theirs most certainly does not. I can't tell anyone what to do if they have family who supported The Dumpster, but if you have friends that did, I do not believe that they are truly your friends. In any case, if we support one another, both emotionally and also economically in who we donate money to, who we buy from, and when possible, who we hire and who we work for, then we will endure the next 4 years better, and when the hard economic times come (and it's sadly clear that they will), the Other Americans will earn less and thus will hopefully be less inclined to vote for The Dumpster again and we will all be in a better position to do as well as we can.

Date: 2016-11-11 06:36 am (UTC)
mithriltabby: Parodies of Communist art (Meowist Revolution)
From: [personal profile] mithriltabby
Yeah, this is terrifying. The only mitigating factor I can see is whether the Republican senators decide to keep the filibuster so they can let the Democrats obstruct the worst of their agenda to mitigate a wave election in 2018; after all, if Trump is a 1-term president, they don’t want him to kill their careers.

Date: 2016-11-11 04:48 pm (UTC)
rialian: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rialian
===Sadly, they are not likely to blame them...I was hearing folks say that Obama did not save the economy, that it was the earlier Republican things that did that. (no, I am not joking.)

Date: 2016-11-11 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com
miller/coors beer was for him as was Dr Pepper.

Pepsi wasnt.

I am keeping track too, and spending my money wisely.

Date: 2016-11-11 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queerbychoice.livejournal.com
I'm not referring to him by name either, but I'm considering various nicknames: President Con Man, President Puppet, Loser in Chief . . . I rejected nicknames focused on him being a racist and a rapist, on the grounds that those things are essentially what his supporters elected him to be - or at best, they didn't mind those things enough to refrain from voting for him - so I figure there's no significant likelihood of defeating him in 2020 just by accusing him of, basically, keeping his campaign promises by being a racist and a rapist.

Date: 2016-11-13 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitten-goddess.livejournal.com
Thank you for the practical advice. I agree that we need to be civil to one another, regardless of political persuasion.
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